NTKOG #32: The kind of bold, vivacious creature who, standing on a street corner, catches the eye of a stranger, banters for a moment, then asks him out right then and there.
I am: shy. Deeply shy. Surely by now you all know that I’m an extreme introvert?
I am not: convinced I’ve ever even actually been on a date with a guy whom I hadn’t been seeing exclusively for at least several months.
The Scene: Wednesday after work, and after my hyper-uncouth spitting adventure, I was wandering around Harvard Square, trying to kill an hour before my creative writing class. I decided to cross the street and get a cupcake, and waited for a light, standing next to a tall, nice-looking Asian guy.
Also, for context, I was wearing my Alice-in-Wonderland dress, a light sweater and flipflops, and basically freezing my eyelashes off.
Stoplight Guy: Aren’t you cold in that?
TKOG: Yeah. But I just moved here from California, so I’m just pretending it’s an unseasonably cold summer day. In late September.
SG: Where in California? I’m from [Prestigious West Coast University's rival school].
TKOG: Oh, I went to Prestigious West Coast University. I guess we hate each other now. Where are you headed?
SG: Nowhere, really. You?
TKOG: I have an hour to kill before class; I was going to grab a coffee. Want to join me?
And guys! He absolutely said yes!!!
We found a cafe — where it transpired that neither of us actually drinks coffee — and both independently asked for the orders “for-here”. So no awkward-out escape hatch.
There was a moment in the line. I felt like I should pay for his order because I’d totally instigated the hang-out, but the line was confusing and I couldn’t find my wallet. At one point I asked if we were even in line, to which he responded: “Well, I am. And you’re with me.” in the sort of paternalistic way that I don’t really hate, and I resolved to pay for his drink, but then lost my nerve.
As we waited for our mugs o’ seasonal beverage, we talked about our academic and career trajectories. He’s currently pursuing a law degree from Hahvahd, but claimed he wants to retire early from corporate law to focus on oil painting. Whenever men say things like that, I wonder whether it is only what they think we want to hear, and if so, why the devil they think we want to hear it.
He was very frank about money — wanting to make it, and lots of it — in a way that, on paper, would have seemed crass. But I have a soft spot for men who are appallingly forthright with a hint of egotism. Similarly, he gave the obviously overworked barista a hard time about making him wait for his drink, and although I hated it, I kind of admired it.
We ended up sitting outside and talking intensely for about an hour. It was all the standard terrible first-date stuff (undergrad experiences, the weather, out-of-reach career fantasies), but done quite well. The conversation was mile-a-minute and clever. He did not make me laugh, of course — very few men do — but we enjoyed each other’s company. It was all the terrible first date conversation, true, but I felt we were working through it. I could see the first-date slipping into a second date with the same natural flow, but more off-the-wall, engaging, whimsical, real.
Then I mentioned growing up in Las Vegas, which is always a mistake: it always, always causes men to grow slimy and disrespectful, at least a little, even the nice ones (let alone barista beraters). I had mentioned not knowing Cambridge well, and we talked about finding a bar and going out for post-work drinks one day. But after the Vegas discussion: “Oh, when is your class over? We could just have drinks at your place…”
Sorry. Did I miss some sort of critical transition in the evening? We made tentative plans to see each other again for drinks (at a bar, not my apartment, obvi), exchanged information, then I had to book to my class.
The Verdict: I would absolutely, totally, 100% do this again! It comes off sounding a more negative experience than it was: to be fair, it was nearly entirely enjoyable, and only took on a weird tone right at the end.
As of right now, he has called a few times, but I keep missing his calls. I texted and he responded with a voicemail asking what I was up to (and for my blog address — whoops, shouldn’t have mentioned that). I think I’m going to ask him if he wants to grab drinks on Monday.
But truly, guys, it was totally pleasant and there was no awkward at all. If you’re reading this and you’re single, I totally encourage you to stop a stranger this weekend and ask them to hang out. Just try it! You’ll feel like a ballsier, better person. (Unless the person turns out to be a total sketchmonger…)
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I’m speechless! Well, not really, but I should be! That takes an INCREDIBLE amount of confidence! Good job!
When I was in high school, I was slightly more BOLD with the gentlemen than I am now. There was this guy I fancied, so I passed him in the hallway after school, didn’t say anything, but physically grabbed him, pulled him into a cubby by an out of use classroom, wrote my number on his hand and the only two words I said were “call me” as I disappeared back into the sea of people. How dramatic. Did I think I was in some teen movie or something?! Lame.
But he did call, and we went out.
But that’s so dramatic and wonderful! I love that story! Truly, I think the world for me is a slightly better place now than it was a few minutes ago, just because I know somebody would do something that completely wonderful.
I take it things did not work out with the guy, but did you see each other for a while? Did he brag about how you gave him your number to, like, everyone he knew? You could dine out for months on a story like that…
Hahaha, no I think we only went on a couple of dates. He is STILL (10 years later) so good looking, but a bit of a sleaze. I do believe one of my friends (in a not so classy moment) did the deed with him in the backseat of a car outside a bar. I’m pretty sure THAT story floated around for MUCH longer than me giving him my number.
I’m an odd duck, I know, but I’ve never invented a career path based around what I thought a woman wanted to hear.
And I do adhere to the adage that someone who is nice to you but rude to a waiter (insert ‘barista’ here) is not a nice person. Now if said barista was chatting with his friends about the latest band nobody will ever see instead of making said coffee-based novelty beverage, that’s different.
In his defense, he wasn’t rude exactly, so much as just needlessly pushy. Yeah, though, I definitely judge my compansions based on how they treat people on the other side of a cash register (or order pad or, well, you get the point). When I worked a job in retail the summer after my freshman year of college, I realized for the first time how absolutely HORRIBLY lots of people treat retail employees. I personally tend to err on the side of being significantly nicer to my waitresses, etc, than to my dates…
Also, I might be giving myself too much credit to suggest that he would fictionalize his whole career trajectory for just my benefit. But honestly, why go to one of the best law schools in the country if your goal is to retire when you’re 40? I found the idea unlikely at best.
DAMN, GIRL!! that’s awesome! i used to be far more apt to do things like that in my younger years (uh, perhaps i was inebriated more often?) but seem to be growing shyer in my old age. of, um, 28. rock on, that’s fantastic :-)
that’s awesome.
i had a stranger ask me to get coffee one time. i was 19. he was about 35. we were in the cigarette store, and he didn’t know what “emo” meant.
i declined.
oh! know where’s awesome to pick up boys? church. especially catholic church. they’ll have issues, but they’ll also open car doors.
That was pretty darn cool :)
Get it, girl! ;) I’m totally impressed! I would be scared that he was a big creeper and I wouldn’t know it, although it sounds like it went pretty well! You’re so bold!
You go girl! That is completely awesome.
Hot! Go you! If you check out some of my archives under “missed connections” I had a pretty good stranger date. I’ve done a few other ballsy things, such as hand my phone number on a napkin to a cute guy in the dining hall, but nothing ever came of it. Those experiences are good though, because it breaks down the barrier between two people.
1) In the last post (which occurred on the same day, the very same day), you were wearing black kitten heels. In this one, you are wearing flip-flops. Blatant incongruity!
2) This is the perfect set-up for a RomCom: you start dating, fall in love, and 5 months later he learns you only asked him out for a blog and furiously storms out of your apartment à la How to Lose a Guy in Ten Days.
LAWYER’D!
I had worn the kitten heels all day to work and kept them on when I first got to Harvard Square, because I was pleased by the incongruity of spitting like a sailor while wearing cute shoes.
After the spitting adventure, though, I changed to the more comfortable flipflops I keep in my bag for my commute.
Also, in case my deposition requires more fleshing out, perhaps I should reveal that between these two episodes, I went soap shopping, from approximately 5:57-6:18PM. There are receipts and eye witnesses to confirm both my activities and level of shoe-cuteness.
haha “he learns you only asked him out for a blog”
Also, excuse me, Justice, but your poor understanding of American pop culture foils you yet again! He doesn’t storm out of her dang apartment! They ANGRILY DRUNKENLY DUET ‘You’re So Vain,” before she tries to storm out a corporate party and then some boring stuff that I forget and then love! (And also: no one else ever voluntarily watches a Kate Hudson movie again.)
Would prefer that the blog was “Nice Kind Of Girl”…who doesn’t ask strangers out: even if they have a cute puppy and offer you candy or a martini. Time to come home for a refresher course.
That’s adorable (as are kitten heels, by the way)! I’m not sure what’s with that “let’s go to your apartment” thing, though – that’s a bit odd. But best wishes anyway!
(And I love Blonde’s story, too – delightfully dramatic!)
hahahahaha, thanks. I’m sure there are a few more dramatic stories from that time of my life that I could pull from the archives too. Actually, I’m blogging next week about asking a guy out.
I have just found your blog and I loved this post. Awhile back I started a list of Things I Want To Do Before I Die, and you have inspired me to add asking out a stranger to it!
Wow, that is so ballsy. I’m very impressed! We must meet up at some point!
I won’t say how I can make it cool, but I can describe myself as either a borderline nerdy software engineer, or as something cool, just by switching between what I do (write computer programs) and why I do it (that’s the something cool).