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	<description>So what am I doing today that I&#039;ve never done before?</description>
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		<title>By: Brande</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brande</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 19:37:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dude... DO NOT feel bad! Customer service is a big deal in and they DEFINITELY shouldn&#039;t have treated you like that. You didn&#039;t even get an apology when you got the money back?! CRAP SERVICE I SAY! Even if I did this to a friend (much less a loyal paying customer) I&#039;d apologize. Granted, part of the reason this flusters me is because I am a giant nag about good customer service*, but still.

*Good meaning fair, adequate, proper. If Sally McDouche comes to my hotel and demands to use a gift card that expired in 2008, sorry, no can do. But I&#039;ll offer her a 10% discount as consolation. That&#039;s good, proper, fair customer service. I don&#039;t, however, believe in the style defined by prostrating oneself before the customer and offering to shine their shoes with humble, unworthy tears.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude&#8230; DO NOT feel bad! Customer service is a big deal in and they DEFINITELY shouldn&#8217;t have treated you like that. You didn&#8217;t even get an apology when you got the money back?! CRAP SERVICE I SAY! Even if I did this to a friend (much less a loyal paying customer) I&#8217;d apologize. Granted, part of the reason this flusters me is because I am a giant nag about good customer service*, but still.</p>
<p>*Good meaning fair, adequate, proper. If Sally McDouche comes to my hotel and demands to use a gift card that expired in 2008, sorry, no can do. But I&#8217;ll offer her a 10% discount as consolation. That&#8217;s good, proper, fair customer service. I don&#8217;t, however, believe in the style defined by prostrating oneself before the customer and offering to shine their shoes with humble, unworthy tears.</p>
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		<title>By: Maria</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 04:05:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not cross-promoting my blog, but I had a very similar post situation back during the holiday shopping season and a particularly sticky-fingered Target parking attendant.

And you do stop and think, oh man, maybe he WAS right and I was the jerk... but sometimes you just gotta trust your gut. I know it&#039;s hard, but at the same time, who cares? These people don&#039;t know you, and oh wait, that&#039;s right, it&#039;s YOUR money. Who cares how much. I got into an argument over $5 bucks.

But I remember that feeling of not wanting to speak up for yourself. You just gotta practice. It gets way easier. And then you get into situations where you&#039;re telling people off for no good reason ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not cross-promoting my blog, but I had a very similar post situation back during the holiday shopping season and a particularly sticky-fingered Target parking attendant.</p>
<p>And you do stop and think, oh man, maybe he WAS right and I was the jerk&#8230; but sometimes you just gotta trust your gut. I know it&#8217;s hard, but at the same time, who cares? These people don&#8217;t know you, and oh wait, that&#8217;s right, it&#8217;s YOUR money. Who cares how much. I got into an argument over $5 bucks.</p>
<p>But I remember that feeling of not wanting to speak up for yourself. You just gotta practice. It gets way easier. And then you get into situations where you&#8217;re telling people off for no good reason ;)</p>
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		<title>By: The Ex</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Ex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 03:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Just to be clear, &quot;hold the presses&quot; was supposed to imply that I was so surprised that I was mixing my metaphors of &quot;hold the phone&quot; and &quot;stop the presses.&quot; Now that I reread it, it looks just like a plausible sincere misstatement of &quot;stop the presses.&quot; Sigh. What can I say, I&#039;m not TKOG. (Pun intended.))</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(Just to be clear, &#8220;hold the presses&#8221; was supposed to imply that I was so surprised that I was mixing my metaphors of &#8220;hold the phone&#8221; and &#8220;stop the presses.&#8221; Now that I reread it, it looks just like a plausible sincere misstatement of &#8220;stop the presses.&#8221; Sigh. What can I say, I&#8217;m not TKOG. (Pun intended.))</p>
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		<title>By: The Ex</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Ex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 02:43:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait. Hold the presses. Did someone just recommend P.G. Wodehouse to TKOG? That&#039;s... that&#039;s like... recommending... Itchy and Scratchy to Bart Simpson. Um, TKOG, can you help me out and come up with some actual literary examples?

My point is, she couldn&#039;t be more already into Wodehouse if she legally changed her name to Bertie Wooster. So, your recommendation is both superbly apt and laughably unnecessary.

Also, scribbler50, I really liked your story about the bartender and the refund. I really think that&#039;s the best way to handle the whole situation. TKOG is a regular at that bookstore, so that&#039;s definitely how the store employees should have handled it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait. Hold the presses. Did someone just recommend P.G. Wodehouse to TKOG? That&#8217;s&#8230; that&#8217;s like&#8230; recommending&#8230; Itchy and Scratchy to Bart Simpson. Um, TKOG, can you help me out and come up with some actual literary examples?</p>
<p>My point is, she couldn&#8217;t be more already into Wodehouse if she legally changed her name to Bertie Wooster. So, your recommendation is both superbly apt and laughably unnecessary.</p>
<p>Also, scribbler50, I really liked your story about the bartender and the refund. I really think that&#8217;s the best way to handle the whole situation. TKOG is a regular at that bookstore, so that&#8217;s definitely how the store employees should have handled it.</p>
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		<title>By: Rebecca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rebecca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 00:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it makes you feel better, she probably would&#039;ve gotten a right up for her till being over. So you saved her her job, in a sense. But if does suck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it makes you feel better, she probably would&#8217;ve gotten a right up for her till being over. So you saved her her job, in a sense. But if does suck.</p>
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		<title>By: Clare</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 23:10:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I cannot believe that she did not apologise.  How rude!  I hope she reads this blog sometime and feels bad!</description>
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		<title>By: scribbler50</title>
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		<dc:creator>scribbler50</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 16:50:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A coupla&#039; things...
First of all, forgive me for joining the chorus here as you&#039;ve more than received the comforting reassurance of your innocence, but as one who works with a cash register I have to weigh in. You did absolutely NOTHING wrong by agreeing to come back for an audit. Money is money (eight bucks or fifty) and right is frigging right, right? I&#039;m surprised Jag-off Jim (given his later behavior) offered the audit in the first place but as long as he did you were right to take him up on it and he should&#039;ve honored his goddam offer by treating you like a human being. And as for the girl behind the counter (as someone above stated perfectly), she&#039;s being paid by the hour anyway so it&#039;s not like you&#039;re keeping her after hours to do this. It&#039;s her frigging job whether it&#039;s ringing a sale, changing a light bulb or righting a goddam wrong! &quot;Buck up, book-store-register-girl, and lose the freakin&#039; attitude.&quot; To err is simply human, to act like you&#039;re incapable of it is pathetic.

And secondly, to further address the attitude business... the mere fact that the two of them reacted the way they did when the truth came out, displays more insecurity on their part than ever should&#039;ve been felt by you. It was apparently colossal for either to admit a mistake. What horse shit! Not to mention... because you got back in line when you returned and waited like everyone else instead of barging up to the front saying, &quot;I&#039;m the one who called!&quot; should have shown them at the outset you were an honorable person and not some kind of a pain who was doing this to cause trouble... and that should&#039;ve been met with an apology by them right there. &quot;Sorry for the inconvenience, Miss, if you don&#039;t mind waiting a few minutes we&#039;ll try and sort this out. Mistakes do happen.&quot; Courtesy goes a long way, especially when its absence (given all the apologizing YOU did) is obviously making the customer feel like shit. I&#039;d like to take a copy of &quot;Catcher in the Rye&quot; (a hard copy no less) and whack this Jim over the head with it and tell him he&#039;s the kind of phony asshole Holden Caulfield was referring to.

I recently had a similar situation where a woman gave me a ten for an eight dollar cocktail, and when I gave her the change she said I gave her a twenty. As I don&#039;t have time to do an audit on the spot and after asking her to check her purse one more time (even though I was convinced I was right) I gave her the extra ten and called it a day. It wasn&#039;t a fifty or a hundred which is easy to disprove, so I figured if I was right I would just eat the loss. And I was right because my count came out ten dollars short that night. This woman is not a regular but she does come in from time to time and the next time she did I said, &quot;By the way, miss, remember the time you came in and you thought I shortchanged you? Well, I was ten dollars short that night, just for the record.&quot; And because this all had gone down with smiles and a dollop of courtesy, the first night and this night, she couldn&#039;t get the ten out of her purse fast enough. In fact she over-tipped on the second night just to show her appreciation. As I said, courtesy and respect go a long way.

And finally (sorry to go on so long here but Jim and the math major really pissed me off!) you&#039;re going to love P.G. Wodehouse if you haven&#039;t already. He&#039;s flat-out my favorite writer when it comes to humor and what to do with a sentence. He&#039;s timeless.

And speaking of what to do with a sentence, YOU certainly do, young lady.... I really enjoy your writing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A coupla&#8217; things&#8230;<br />
First of all, forgive me for joining the chorus here as you&#8217;ve more than received the comforting reassurance of your innocence, but as one who works with a cash register I have to weigh in. You did absolutely NOTHING wrong by agreeing to come back for an audit. Money is money (eight bucks or fifty) and right is frigging right, right? I&#8217;m surprised Jag-off Jim (given his later behavior) offered the audit in the first place but as long as he did you were right to take him up on it and he should&#8217;ve honored his goddam offer by treating you like a human being. And as for the girl behind the counter (as someone above stated perfectly), she&#8217;s being paid by the hour anyway so it&#8217;s not like you&#8217;re keeping her after hours to do this. It&#8217;s her frigging job whether it&#8217;s ringing a sale, changing a light bulb or righting a goddam wrong! &#8220;Buck up, book-store-register-girl, and lose the freakin&#8217; attitude.&#8221; To err is simply human, to act like you&#8217;re incapable of it is pathetic.</p>
<p>And secondly, to further address the attitude business&#8230; the mere fact that the two of them reacted the way they did when the truth came out, displays more insecurity on their part than ever should&#8217;ve been felt by you. It was apparently colossal for either to admit a mistake. What horse shit! Not to mention&#8230; because you got back in line when you returned and waited like everyone else instead of barging up to the front saying, &#8220;I&#8217;m the one who called!&#8221; should have shown them at the outset you were an honorable person and not some kind of a pain who was doing this to cause trouble&#8230; and that should&#8217;ve been met with an apology by them right there. &#8220;Sorry for the inconvenience, Miss, if you don&#8217;t mind waiting a few minutes we&#8217;ll try and sort this out. Mistakes do happen.&#8221; Courtesy goes a long way, especially when its absence (given all the apologizing YOU did) is obviously making the customer feel like shit. I&#8217;d like to take a copy of &#8220;Catcher in the Rye&#8221; (a hard copy no less) and whack this Jim over the head with it and tell him he&#8217;s the kind of phony asshole Holden Caulfield was referring to.</p>
<p>I recently had a similar situation where a woman gave me a ten for an eight dollar cocktail, and when I gave her the change she said I gave her a twenty. As I don&#8217;t have time to do an audit on the spot and after asking her to check her purse one more time (even though I was convinced I was right) I gave her the extra ten and called it a day. It wasn&#8217;t a fifty or a hundred which is easy to disprove, so I figured if I was right I would just eat the loss. And I was right because my count came out ten dollars short that night. This woman is not a regular but she does come in from time to time and the next time she did I said, &#8220;By the way, miss, remember the time you came in and you thought I shortchanged you? Well, I was ten dollars short that night, just for the record.&#8221; And because this all had gone down with smiles and a dollop of courtesy, the first night and this night, she couldn&#8217;t get the ten out of her purse fast enough. In fact she over-tipped on the second night just to show her appreciation. As I said, courtesy and respect go a long way.</p>
<p>And finally (sorry to go on so long here but Jim and the math major really pissed me off!) you&#8217;re going to love P.G. Wodehouse if you haven&#8217;t already. He&#8217;s flat-out my favorite writer when it comes to humor and what to do with a sentence. He&#8217;s timeless.</p>
<p>And speaking of what to do with a sentence, YOU certainly do, young lady&#8230;. I really enjoy your writing!</p>
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		<title>By: The Ex</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Ex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 06:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haha Muscles, I was thinking the same thing about wanting to break the monotony of NTKOG supporters.

I definitely support TKOG trying being more assertive, getting way the eff out of your comfort zone, as part of your NTKOG project.

Also, if you really only had a single Hamilton in your pocket when you set out for your night on the town, that&#039;s kind of incontrovertible evidence that you didn&#039;t get your change.

The way I&#039;d approach the decision in this scenario is: You just have to assign a probability to your being mistaken or having dropped the change while rearranging your pockets or something -- maybe 25%. Then think about the cost of taking a few minutes to walk back to the bookstore and waiting for them to audit it -- maybe $2.50. Then assign a rough social cost of the annoyance inflicted upon the employees and other customers -- maybe $4. Then I&#039;d take into account a slight disincentive that the populations needs to enforce upon the store and employees to keep them honest -- the same way train conductors have to check tickets at least sometimes to disincentivize freeriding-- maybe $0.50. Altogether that&#039;s
((100%-25%) * $8) - $2.50 - $4 + $0.50 = $0.00.

So it&#039;s a pure toss-up in my book.

Does this maybe illustrate why it takes me so long to make decisions?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha Muscles, I was thinking the same thing about wanting to break the monotony of NTKOG supporters.</p>
<p>I definitely support TKOG trying being more assertive, getting way the eff out of your comfort zone, as part of your NTKOG project.</p>
<p>Also, if you really only had a single Hamilton in your pocket when you set out for your night on the town, that&#8217;s kind of incontrovertible evidence that you didn&#8217;t get your change.</p>
<p>The way I&#8217;d approach the decision in this scenario is: You just have to assign a probability to your being mistaken or having dropped the change while rearranging your pockets or something &#8212; maybe 25%. Then think about the cost of taking a few minutes to walk back to the bookstore and waiting for them to audit it &#8212; maybe $2.50. Then assign a rough social cost of the annoyance inflicted upon the employees and other customers &#8212; maybe $4. Then I&#8217;d take into account a slight disincentive that the populations needs to enforce upon the store and employees to keep them honest &#8212; the same way train conductors have to check tickets at least sometimes to disincentivize freeriding&#8211; maybe $0.50. Altogether that&#8217;s<br />
((100%-25%) * $8) &#8211; $2.50 &#8211; $4 + $0.50 = $0.00.</p>
<p>So it&#8217;s a pure toss-up in my book.</p>
<p>Does this maybe illustrate why it takes me so long to make decisions?</p>
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		<title>By: Layla Winterborne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Layla Winterborne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 06:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t really see anything wrong with what you did...and I&#039;ve worked behind a register before.  I guess it just depends on what day you catch people.

For one reason or another, though, I really enjoyed this entry.  Heh.  Don&#039;t know why.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t really see anything wrong with what you did&#8230;and I&#8217;ve worked behind a register before.  I guess it just depends on what day you catch people.</p>
<p>For one reason or another, though, I really enjoyed this entry.  Heh.  Don&#8217;t know why.</p>
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		<title>By: Carolyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carolyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 01:43:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s excellent the kind of thing I would never do, and exactly the kind of thing I&#039;d regret not doing all month long.

PS -- Thank you for the Howard Zinn reference. Just...thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s excellent the kind of thing I would never do, and exactly the kind of thing I&#8217;d regret not doing all month long.</p>
<p>PS &#8212; Thank you for the Howard Zinn reference. Just&#8230;thank you.</p>
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