TKOG Who goes out with someone from Craigslist

by That Kind of Girl on June 7, 2010

This post teaches you how not to treat first dates. For a secretary’s-eye view of how to bend administrative assistants to your will, check out my piece in Life As A Human.

NTKOG #193: The kind of girl who not only goes out with but lives to tell about a date procured on the sketchiest site on the internet, hands down. (Though if you’re actually on Craiglist now, I can’t vouch for what your hands are down…)

I am: skeptical of legitimate dating sites — let alone a website one of the normal and proven functions of which is to find a random stranger to mess around with in the last stall of an Arby’s bathroom.

I am not: too picky about any quality in a man except one: he needs to be exceptional. A trait that’s shockingly hard to find outside the ivory tower.

The Scene: Finally, the conclusion of my three-part saga about posting the most absurdly specific Craigslist ad ever.  When last we’d left, I’d requested a man who was brilliant, weird and wonderful; received some funny and charming replies, but didn’t see actual potential in any of the replies — except one.

Oh that one, though. The six-page email — entitled “You Had Me At Smoot-Hawley Tariff” — covered a range of topics: Craigslist Guy’s educational background (entirely acceptable), career aspirations, current pleasure reading, ’20s obsession, Amazon Prime membership. Everything, in short, required to pique a right-minded girl’s interest, plus impeccable grammar and a little panache. “I’m tempted to think you are some sort of illusory oasis in the desert of the internet,” the email ended. “I have never hoped for a hypothesis to be disproved so hard before.”

So I responded. A lengthy and interested response, in fact, after the sending of which, I allowed myself to get a little giddy. That was mistake number one.

Mistakes 2-7?

2. He signed his next email: “Longingly yours.” Creepy much? But I gave him a pass, until…
3. …all of his subsequent emails were riddled with so many typos they were almost literally unreadable. No spaces between seven or eight words at a time, near-homophones replacing the intended words every few sentences, creative capitalization. But perhaps he’s a fan of free-form poetry, I rationalized, or maybe dyslexic. Hell, Jordan Catalano couldn’t even read. But then…
4. …he started peppering every other sentence with a “lol” or “haha”. Funny people do not laugh at their own jokes in real life. Even moderately unfunny people should not be so hard-pressed for laughs that they feel the need to virtual-chuckle at their own non-jokes online.
5. Fortunately, this grew to be less and less of an issue, as it took him over six days to respond to any email I sent after the initial two. After a while, I began to hope I was done with him, but then, in my inbox, another typo-crawling missive, every week like clockwork. Which is how…
6. …it took us TWO MONTHS to schedule a date. Which I think even he couldn’t have wanted to go on, considering he scheduled it for:
7: SIX FRIGGIN’ PM. You know who schedules dates at 6pm? Ax murderers, retirement home hussies, and dudes who are too lazy to change out of their work clothes first.

So can I just come out and say, hey dudes, let’s maybe not be so much of dating guys from Craigslist? Or do you want to hear about the date as a little bit of back-up?

I showed up at the bar about ten minutes late, straight from work, after a twenty-minute pep talk with my mom about how much I didn’t want to see this guy. Finally dragged myself in and recognized him immediately. Because there was no one else in the bar. It being 6 fucking pm.

He was nursing a beer already, so I ordered a gin and ginger, prepared to slam it down and run home. Unfortunately, Craigslist Guy didn’t share my plan: he pantomimed sips of the beer, nursing it through my two gin and gingers and then, as I was signaling the bartender for a check, immediately requested another hour-and-a-half beer.

But surely, you’re saying, y’all must have been involved in some sort of conversation to make the booze flow so slowly? Half right. On his side of the date, the conversation flowed like oil into the gulf. Every word I managed to shoehorn into the spaces he took for breath seemed to remind him of another story that had happened to one of his friends — nothing, you see, ever happened to Craigslist Guy personally, a life void he filled by appointing himself professional historian and publicist to his very average crew of undergrad homies.

After a while, his conversational tyranny grew so patently ludicrous that I began to test him:

CG: It’s amazing how territorial hipsters get in Billyburg. Oh, that’s what we hipsters call Williamsburg, if you didn’t know.
TKOG: Tell me about it. Last time I was there, I got in a barfight. I had to punch someone.
CG: That’s cool.  Yeah, so when my friend was there, she was in line for the restroom and [five minute anecdote that reaches its climax with some frosty glances. about which i am hearing. third-hand. kill me.]

CG: So where’d you grow up?
TKOG: Vegas. It’s pretty crazy there.
CG: That’s cool.
TKOG:  Yeah, y’know, lots of coke-fueled orgies in high school. Friends working in strip clubs. But that was nothing compared to the thing that happened senior spring…
CG: Oh, okay. Did I mention I’m from Maryland? [five-minute rant about -- oh, who knows. I was busy discreetly rubbing gin in my eyes to try to feel feelings again.]

Finally, after three hours of frantically pursuing any possible out, managed to talk my way out and run to the T station. Although he offered to walk me there, I declined and he seemed happy to remain at the bar. He probably didn’t even notice I was gone.

The Verdict: Well, at least he wasn’t the Craigslist killer. Still, what an awful waste of an evening. Friggin’ dude was so consumed with trying to seem cool and interesting that he didn’t take a second to notice I’m easily twice as interesting as he is. Although I do owe him for one thing: he single-handedly convinced me that dating just can’t be worth it. Here’s to being single ’til grad school.

{ 22 comments… read them below or add one }

Ken O June 7, 2010 at 8:53 am

You are the only person who’s proved either part of my hypothesis that “whilst you can find love on the interweb, you can’t find it on dating sites” not just once but twice!

I know several couples who first “met” on the net, but all on hobby sites rather than dating/relationships sites.

On the specifics, if I’d suggested meeting that early it would have been with the intent of “have a drink, then either we have an excuse to bail or we go for food”.

Also, in his defence, I tend to talk too much when I’m nervous too. OTOH, you make it sound like the short form for Williamsburg should be Willyburg in his case. ;) I’m sure Muscles can explain the British humour there if you don’t already know what I just called him!

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Linda June 7, 2010 at 9:10 am

i totally forgot craiglist killer was from Boston. you brave girl.

to add on to ken’s comment, i know of ONE couple who successfully met on craigslist and started dating. that was over 2 years ago and they’re still together..

still, the odds are against you!

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That Kind of Girl June 7, 2010 at 9:20 am

Actually, I don’t know if I’ve mentioned it here, but The Ex and I kind of met online. I mean, sort of. We went to the same university and had a mutual friend; one day, The Ex was randomly going through profiles of friends of friends (oh facebook) and came across my profile with a link to my blog. He read it, thought a particular line was funny, and quoted it on his blog. I found it by googling myself and was intrigued to find and meet the man who had such stunning taste in prose. Four very happy years together, and the rest is only-semi-bittersweet history!

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Sadako June 7, 2010 at 9:22 am

But…the eternal question. Was he cute?

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That Kind of Girl June 7, 2010 at 9:36 am

He was definitely accurate to the picture he sent, which is a rarity in the Photoshop age.

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Andrle June 7, 2010 at 10:01 am

As someone with high standards as well as being the most skeptical ever of online dating sites, I’ve got to vouch for the online dating business. Maybe not the Craigslist kind, but the other kinds.

Last August, on a fluke, I not only joined one (OKCupid.com – bonus: free! no paying for love here!), but also met and found the most amazing dude ever – on the first try. OK, so in the rest of the universe, the first person you meet generally isn’t going to be “the one.” But I guess I lucked out. Nine months (this Friday) later, we’re still all happy and as geeky as ever. I credit the scientific nerdiness of OKCupid.

Maybe we *are* both crazy. That possibility has been tossed around. Hrm…

That’s all I’ve got. That and a very sympathetic “that date sounded tragic.” Probably didn’t need to vouch for online dating necessarily, but I saw one of the comments that said it generally doesn’t work. And I was all, hey, I know it works! And then I was like, TKOG, don’t be dismayed! So.. yeah. Now that I’ve illustrated that my thought process is essentially narrated by a valley girl (“I was all,” “I was like,” totally), thus endeth my rant.

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That Kind of Girl June 7, 2010 at 10:12 am

Good for you guys! I know some online couples and agree there’s nothing inherently wrong with meeting online. Although the one OKCupid date I’ve been on in Boston, the guy had zero social skills and found it appropriate to let me know — within ten minutes of meeting me — all about his various mental health diagnoses. Then again, the exact same thing happened with the one date I’ve been on here with an in-person ask-out. Weirdly, Craigslist guy was the most normal person I’ve met.

I guess the moral of the story is: crazy people loooooove me. Which is basically the blogger equivalent of “I’m big in France”.

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Ken O June 7, 2010 at 10:35 am

I wasn’t saying there’s anything wrong with meeting on-line. I’ve met and dated women I first met on-line myself. All I was saying was that TKOG keeps confirming my experience that you’re more likely to meet someone you want a second date with through a hobby site than through a dating/relationships site. OK?

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Andrle June 7, 2010 at 10:46 am

No, totally. I agree that online meeting is kind of dodgy or unreliable. And your point about hobby sites makes a lot of sense since it brings together people who obviously have common interests and it’s more likely also they have lots of other life stuff in common.

It’s more that, as someone who used to think that the least romantic way to tell people how you met was “we found each other online,” it’s been a reality check. Still definitely all those drawbacks that I was before aware of.

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Muscles June 7, 2010 at 1:27 pm

yeah, you bring your elves, she brings her dwarves and you have a good old bash-up … I’m sure.

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Ken O June 8, 2010 at 6:04 am

Well, I’m more likely to bring a Dwarven cleric or a Halfling rogue than a pointy-eared vegetarian flower presser, but yeah, I get the idea! ;-)

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Barbara June 7, 2010 at 12:46 pm

You have guts to meet someone off that site. At least you have a good story to tell now.

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Muscles June 7, 2010 at 1:28 pm

boring is the worst, couldn’t you have shoved a parrot down his trousers or something? Or at least treated him like he might have been the Craigslist killer.

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That Kind of Girl June 7, 2010 at 1:42 pm

Clearly I should have just left. I warned him early on that I had a smokebomb in my purse, so if he irritated me, I’d deploy it and disappear in a cloud of smoke. (This is all part of TKOG’s standard first-date banter.) Considering he’d been warned, maybe I really should have just taken off. Like after he condescendingly explained to me who the friggin’ Decemberists were.

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ML June 7, 2010 at 6:18 pm

Wow. If someone tried to explain to me who the Decemberists are, I would probably detonate my smoke bomb immediately and scream, “LOOK AT THAT FUCKING HIPSTER!”

You poor thing.

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Daily Virgin June 7, 2010 at 2:53 pm

Last month I finally signed up for a dating site (OKCupid) and subsequently, forced myself to go on three dates.

One date I cut short because his mustache was creeping me the hell out (dude did not tell me about his furry friend; I despise facial hair). Another made it through to the second round but then failed my impromptu litmus test (let’s just say it has to do with the inevitable zombie apocalypse).

After messaging and gchatting for a good 2-3 weeks, the last one and I finally met in person a couple weeks ago. And well, he’s… sort of amazing. I’ve always thought online dating websites were for freaks who weren’t even lucid enough to get by in real life but this experience proved to me that, like prison, there are a few good ones lurking in there.

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kahlia June 7, 2010 at 3:02 pm

“Hell, Jordan Catalano couldn’t even read.” Dude, this made me laugh out loud and get in trouble b.c I should be working. This is why I read blogs written by witty Americans my age*!

And “you make me stop ovulating” is so my new favorite tag.

*That’s “my age…ish”, since I think I’m a couple of years minus one day older than you. Yeah, Virgo-Leo cuspers!

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Heart Juniper June 7, 2010 at 4:08 pm

I normally avoid online dating sites on account of the fact that I am a Gemini, and therefore, have developed a terrible habit of dating people merely to have a decent conversation outside the confines of a bar. However, I once decided to go out with a suitor from OK Cupid because he had a decent grip on grammar and a shared love of coffee. After a slightly charming first date that involved lunch and dinner, I should have known what was in store for me next. Destination Clingsville. Gah. Any guy who wants to spend 10 hours with you on your first meeting probably only has 10 hours worth of material (our next hour long date was incredibly dull) AND nothing better to do with his time (I suddenly became his go-to source of entertainment). You better believe he was dropped before there could be a date #3. And I, too, have removed myself from the dating pool until grad school. Good Riddance!

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Kate June 7, 2010 at 5:47 pm

oh um just so you know, “you make me stop ovulating” kind of made my day.

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Nik June 7, 2010 at 6:15 pm

I started reading this post, exciting thinking you may have met someone. How sad he turned out to be! I feel for him. But, I also now see why he was on Craigslist. lesigh.

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Sada June 8, 2010 at 12:53 am

You’re braver than I am. I would never go on a date with a dude who LOLed. RED frigging FLAG.

I’m confused by his descent into e-mail madness, though. How in God’s name did he write the first eloquent message? Who was his Cyrano de Bergerac? I think you need to find THAT guy and go on a date with him.

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Kit O'Connell June 14, 2010 at 6:14 pm

You fell victim to newsletter guy — the reason the initial email was so eloquent was not likely because someone else wrote it to him, but because he has been refining and sending the same introductory email to dozens or maybe hundreds of girls. Unfortunately they tend to also put everything that is interesting about them into that initial email and have nothing else remaining — that was my theory anyway till your post proved it.

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