TKOG Who practically sits in your lap

by That Kind of Girl on June 10, 2010

On Secret Society of List Addicts yesterday: reasons having long nails occasionally makes me want to stab myself in the eye with my (exquisitely manicured) index finger.

NTKOG #195: The kind of vigilante bus avenger who, upon witnessing minor violations of public transportation etiquette, makes the punishment fit the crime.

I am: annoyed by people who act singularly burdened to be stuck on the bus. ’cause, really, guys, the rest of us are thrilled to be here! (Well, excluding those dudes who seem to count rush-hour frotting as the high point of their sex lives.)

I am not: ballsy enough to call people out on it. Why make a bad situation worse?

The Scene: My morning rush-hour bus to work, which has the unique pleasure of crossing no fewer than three busy subway lines. Although I’m fortunate enough to join the crush before the bus gets truly packed, it would take nothing short of an act of god to prevent every square inch of the bus from cramming with groggy passenger-zombies within a few stops of my entrance. Which miraculously doesn’t stop people from plopping down in aisle seats and unpacking the full contents of their purses and briefcases into the empty seat next to them in the mad attempt to score a full double to themselves.

Heck, a few weeks ago I saw a dude spread out a linen handkerchief on said unoccupied seat and spread out an honest-to-pete PICNIC on the seat next to him. Complete with friggin’ soup, the least appropriate bus food since lighter-broiled s’mores.

Usually I sleepwalk past the seathogs, assuming someone else will put them in their place. But for one week, walked up, looked those dudes straight in the eye and told them to shove it. Specifically, to shove it over so we could be busride bffs.

Monday: Businessman sprawled in the outside seat, briefcase full of papers precariously teetering on the inside seat. The bus is half-full; regardless, I stand next to him and clear my throat. There’s an empty seat over there, he nods, and I tell him I’m aware but do not move. Well, it’s going to take me a minute to gather my papers. That’s okay, sir. I’ll wait. By the time he finally gathers his goods, we’ve hit the next stop and all of the other seats do legitimate fill up. Which doesn’t stop him from passive-aggressively elbowing my ribs every time he turns a page.

Tuesday and Wednesday: Young professional women, both days, perched in the outside seat with their bags resting non-aggressively on the inside seat. Can I sit there? Much rolling of eyes and exasperated sighing, but I am allowed to pass and sit unmolested.

Thursday: A brah, sprawling across both seats, taking up more physical space than seems possible for his hipster-emaciated frame. He is bobbing slightly to the music on his skull-eating ’80s headphones. I stand in front of him, gesturing, then verbally asking him to move — growing more polite as my voice raises. Maybe he’s playing with the volume on his iPod or maybe he doesn’t hear me. Just as I’m about to concede the stand-off, he makes the fatal mistake of glancing up and catching my eye. Sir. Seriously. Move. He does, then avoids looking at me for the rest of the ride, even when he passes two inches in front of my face to be let out for his stop. “Stupid bitch,” I can hear him thinking and, yeah, I guess that’s one way of looking at it.

Friday: A day so wet and unpleasant the whole world smells like a dog-grooming parlor. Already, the bus is crowded, and yet a bottle-blonde undergrad with her hair pulled into a messy finals-week chignon sits in the outer seat with an overflowing summer tote spilling on the seat next to her.

TKOG: Excuse me, can I sit in the seat next to you?
Blondie: There’s another seat right over there.
TKOG: This bus is going to fill up in like five minutes and you’ll need to move your stuff anyway.
Blondie: Yeah, but there’s a seat right over there.
TKOG: And there’s one next to you. Seriously.

Blondie exhaled a double-lung of disgust and, as she stood, picked up her drenched umbrella from the ground of the bus and put it on my seat, where it lay dripping for thirty seconds while she arranged her bag. “Ooooh, I’m so sorry,” she smirked, straight out of Gossip Girl, “Now the seat’s all wet! You probably don’t want to sit there!”

Hey, whatever, I told her. I was going to wash this skirt tonight anyway. Shot her a grotesquely sweet smile until she rolled her eyes away. Dude, there is no escaping the vigilante bustice.

The Verdict: Funny thing about people: for some reason, calling them out on their bad behavior always seems to make them anxious to behave even more atrociously, as though it in some way validates the decision. Whatever, guys! I can play this game all day long!

That said, I don’t think I will. Vigilante justice just isn’t viable for the non-caped set. If you call people out directly and verbally on bad behavior, maybe one in a thousand people will think to themselves, “Huh, that was a fair point.” And once you take direct reproach out of the equation, the odds get even lower. Providing gentle nudges against bad behavior is highly unlikely to make people realize exactly how they’ve been behaving badly. More than likely, I just gave a few people an excuse to bitch to their c-workers about the crazy jackass that may or may not have been coming onto them on the bus.

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Teffer June 10, 2010 at 8:53 am

this is why I avoid taking the 1 bus whenever I can. Even the T is better than the bus. Except the Green Line.

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Dave June 10, 2010 at 8:55 am

A friend of mine gave the following advice to her daughter, “The world is full of assholes, the best you can hope for is not to be one.”

I’m so non-confrontational, I couldn’t do what you did. The one thing I can’t help myself from doing, however, is loudly and cheerfully saying, “You’re welcome!” when I’m snubbed after holding the door open for someone. So hard to say, “Thank you” ?! WTF

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Ken O June 10, 2010 at 9:27 am

My line in that situation is “Pardon? Oh, I thought you said thank you”.

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Ken O June 10, 2010 at 9:25 am

People who actually dump their stuff on seats on public transport at peak times bug the H*ll out of me too. I’d steer clear of the confrontation if there were other seats clear, but if the vehicle is near full you will be shifting it; BELIEVE IT!!

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Sadako June 10, 2010 at 9:44 am

I *hate* people like this. I always go out of my way to put my stuff in my lap or hold it in front of me on the ground. No manners, some of these bus/subway riding hooligans.

Those about to ride public transport, we salute you.

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LilPecan June 10, 2010 at 9:52 am

I should not be but I am still amazed at how rude people can be on public transport and everywhere else. I have repeatedly given up my seat for pregnant women, the obviously handicapped and the elderly, both male & female (I am female) while other, younger able bodied people obliviously take up two seats. I can NOT help but do this. It IS public transportation and nothing guarantees anyone to extended personal space. If they really feel a need for this they should take a cab.

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Danielle June 10, 2010 at 4:11 pm

Seriously, people these days. If a person is elderly, handicapped, or pregnant, they DESERVE a seat.

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That Kind of Girl June 10, 2010 at 4:18 pm

Amen, lady! Or if they have small kids. It’s tough enough being a mom, I’d imagine, without having to wrangle your kids in a crowded bus.

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fembost June 10, 2010 at 9:52 am

Oh god, and what about the No Move Backers? When the front of the bus is insanely crowded and there’s that one WhooHaddle in the middle who pretends to be so into her Friggin METRO that she won’t move on back?!?!?! My dirty, piercing looks aren’t doing the trick. Next time this happens I am saying something. thank you!

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Molly June 10, 2010 at 1:34 pm

SERIOUSLY. This is also a problem on the Green Line…I’ll pay my fare at the front, look past the knot of people at the door and see the entire. back. of. the. train has plenty of standing room. Often there are even seats.

So I’ll say “Excuse me” a couple times, and then I’ll just shove through. I carry a Timbuk2 bag and a violin strapped to my back. If people can’t move themselves back, they need to be prepared to get a fiddle in their ribs occasionally.

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amanda June 10, 2010 at 10:01 am

I love this. Could add dozens of stories to your own. Self-absorption and passive-aggressiveness rule on public transportation. It gets me down on a daily basis, and my non-MBTA-riding friends just think I’m crazy when I complain. Last week a man on the green line begrudgingly moved his briefcase for me on a packed train, saying “I didn’t want it to get dirty”. Another time, as I stood hanging onto the overhead loop on the train, the woman sitting comfortably in front of me and blocking most of my foot-stance space with a gigantic shopping bag filled with electronics had the gall to ask me to please refrain from letting my hanging handbag touch her purchased goods. Wow.

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Red June 10, 2010 at 3:16 pm

OMG! haha! I laughed, because that is so outrageous. Who do people think they are? geeez this article was hilarious and this was my favorite comment. Next to Mumsy’s!! I love TKOG’s mom!!! :) I’m so freaking glad I don’t have to ride a bus O_O
-Red*

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SM June 10, 2010 at 10:16 am

I never ask, I just sit down. If they don’t move their stuff in time, tough. Gossip Girl can catch a nice wet sneeze right in her face and I wouldn’t apologize.

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Lauren June 10, 2010 at 10:32 am

See I agree with the no seat hog thing, dude one seat to yourself if people are going to stand. Yet, as a fellow bus goer, I’d rather have that slice of seat available as a table/desk until the point where it’s actually needed, rather than have someone nab it a few stops before, when there are still tonnes of free seats. I generally have my bag sitting next to me (still leaving almost the entire half of the double seat free for a fellow passenger, just getting it off the manky ground) and will move it if the bus is filling up, or someone clearly wants to sit there, but mostly I’d really like my damn personal space. Plus, I’m really tiny and somehow that makes people think they deserve 3/4 of the double seat. No way man, equality here, I want my fair 1/2 share of this baby, tuck in your elbows. Also, if you have a newspaper? My little bubble of personal space ain’t the breakfast table, get your broadsheet out of my face.

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That Kind of Girl June 10, 2010 at 11:11 am

In principle, I have no problem with people spreading out a little if the seat next to them is unlikely to be occupied. Going somewhere very early on a Saturday or during an afternoon when Corporate America is still in the office? Spread out your picnic hankie and go to town! But this was a peak commuter-time bus on a busy route. And while I got on (and staked out my seats!) while there were a few seats left, by the next stop or two, the bus is cattle-car crammed every morning.

And something simple like resting a bag next to you obviously doesn’t bother anyone, if you keep an eye open to move it when it’s clear that someone is gunning for the seat. But I think people that aggressively trying to take up extra space on a bus that they know will be packed is not only futile, but rather rude, because it takes up more time when other passengers try to take a rightful seat.

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michael June 10, 2010 at 11:18 am

I have to admit, I’d rather stand than deal with this louts – which is no doubt what they’re counting on. But there’s nothing that says I can’t stand right next to their seats and have a real hard time noticing that they’re trying to get up and get off at their stop. Yet only once have I ridden the bus farther than I intended, just to make sure I was in position.

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Mike June 10, 2010 at 11:22 am

I spend the majority of my commute thinking about and observing the strange and rude actions of my fellow in-to-the-city-ers. Could it be true that 20% of people stand and watch the other 80% slowly degrade into baboons? I kind of like to think of it as not so much an “us vs them” type situation and that maybe sometimes I, too, am a burden on someone else. But then I see a guy on the orange line sleeping across four seats at 515pm or a 21 year old girl sitting and ignoring the old man with a cane barely able to steady his body on the red line and I’m pretty sure I am never that person. I make a pretty considerable effort to leave an empty seat (I almost never sit on the train because I dont need to) I hold doors, I stand to the right on the escalators, I have my money ready when I get on the bus, and you know what, it never comes back to me. I just dont understand how the “loud music assholes” and the “talking about periods on her cell phones” and the “spitting on the platforms” get off the train and walk into a normal life and complain about public transportation..

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That Kind of Girl June 10, 2010 at 11:29 am

YES! There is a standing ovation in my heart for you right now! This is so often how I feel!

I know that sometimes all of us — even very conscientious people — have rare times at which they might be the jerk.

“Frig, my gynecologist called while I’m on the bus, but if I don’t take this and make an appointment right now, my insurance will run out before I can get the treatment covered!”

“Sorry, six-months-pregnant lady, but I very definitely have food poisoning, and if I stand up right now I am unequivocally going to hurl!”

“MY IPOD IS STUCK AT THE HIGHEST DECIBEL LEVEL!”

But looking at the frequency of truly horrible public transportation behavior, I just find it hard to believe that everyone we see being rude is a normally polite person who’s just having an off day. I suspect most of the bad behavior is the same 25% of people, who are jerk-offs 100% of the time.

Anyway, thank you for being conscientious, and for speaking the rant in all of our hearts!

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Amy --- Just A Titch June 10, 2010 at 12:02 pm

I personally hate bad behavior but would never be so ballsy! Well done.

P.S. I hate to hijack this comment, but well…I’m sort of obsessed with the List Addicts site and sent an email about doing a list and got radio silence. TELL ME WHERE I CAN MAKE A LIST. Thanks! xoxo

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That Kind of Girl June 10, 2010 at 12:11 pm

There is an email in your future! Or your recent past! Depending on how frequently you check your blog email!

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Mumsy June 10, 2010 at 12:47 pm

I would never recommend this (I don’t want you to get hurt) but I wonder what would happen if you simply said, “I don’t have to sit there. I guess I just want to indicate that what you are doing is inconsiderate bus-rider behavior.” This has the added advantage of causing a tiny bit of public shaming – 21st century version of the stocks.

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That Kind of Girl June 10, 2010 at 12:58 pm

Hmm, or to take it a step further, I could pin a big red “A” to their sweater. Of course, the “A” in this case would stand for a epithet a bit less family-friendly than “Adulterer”…

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missyummyface June 10, 2010 at 1:00 pm

Oh Lord…don’t get me started on a public transport rant. I could go on for years about people like these!

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Riff Dog June 10, 2010 at 3:11 pm

This would be even more fun with a partner who takes the seat in front of you. That way, he (meaning me) can overhear the conversation.

So when Thursday Dude calls you a bitch as he gets off (the classic coward’s move, waiting until he’s walking away before he says something,) then I can get up and ask him what exactly was it he said? And suggest we “take a little walk.” God, sometimes I love being big.

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That Kind of Girl June 10, 2010 at 3:13 pm

Excellent point! Next time I go on a vigilante justice tour, I should look into acquiring a threatening male accomplice!

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Paula June 10, 2010 at 4:52 pm

I used to get the bus to work a few years ago and it would infuriate me the way people would sit on the outside of seats like that, especially when the bus always appeared full as a result of this behaviour. I would ask if I could sit there, meaning could I sit on the inside (assuming that they were planning to get out in a few stops) and they would make such a fuss of moving into the window so I could sit down, only for me to have to let them off a few stops later, as I had suspected.

Friday girl = total beatch, by the way!

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Jay Levitt June 10, 2010 at 5:06 pm

Way to break free of rude social constructs! Maybe we can all go walking through crosswalks this summer, with our keys out at arm’s length, daring the Massholes.

“Dude! You keyed my car!?” No, actually, looks like you carred my key. See? It’s all bent. Now it’s a moving violation AND property damage, too.

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Caz June 10, 2010 at 9:05 pm

As a frequent user of Public transit, I don’t think it’s EVER occurred to me to be a huge asshole about it. Sure I’ll occasionally sit in the outside seat with a free one beside me, or snag a newly vacated seat before the girl next to me even though I’m in flats. But if anyone ever asked or made a move to sit beside me I’d automatically let them. I stand for the elderly, pregnant and kids. I move in from the doors, don’t play my music obnoxiously loud, and silently glare at all the people who pretend to ignore the little old lady with her cane hanging onto the pole for dear life.

But I’ve never had the guts to do what you did. Way to go!

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Kori June 10, 2010 at 9:10 pm

Whatever the outcome, I’m glad you did it. I hate people who take up two seats at rush hour. COME THE EFF ON.

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Clare June 11, 2010 at 7:32 am

Well done for this!

I got on my bus a couple of days ago and some stupid cow had put her wet umbrella on the only spare seat. I asked if she had a kleenex so as to dry it, but – she was getting off at the next stop. So I had to explain to the next four people who were about to sit on it that it was wet, and then they gave me an evil look! Grr!

I was incredibly proud of myself a few months ago when I asked some dodgy looking lads to turn their dreadful music down. And they did!

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Nina June 12, 2010 at 1:49 am

this topic makes me so angry!
why is everyone an arsehole on public transport?
i’m the girl who got a letter to her CEO commending me for offering up her seat to 2 elderly ladies. i also felt guilty once for taking up a priority seat on a train after getting heatstroke at the station that made me very dizzy, having to be pushed on the train by a nice stranger while my eyesight was all blacked out and then having completely spasmed hands that i couldn’t un-flex.

but unfortunately, as much a i wish it to be otherwise, i never get the guts to say anything to people taking up all the seats and not moving down the carriage. as far as i’ve gotten is to glare until i get a seat and having a very loud conversation with a mother with a pram (whose hubby woldn’t back her up) over how god damn rude all the other passengers were for pushing ahead of her so she almost couldnt get on.

not just the passengers though. if it wasn’t for the fear of not being allowed back on my morning bus i would’ve shouted back at my driver for telling me to press the bell earlier that he couldn’t talk, he’d missed a stop earlier.

that’s it! next time i will call people on it. you want to take up 2 seats? you will have t give me proof that you paid for 2 seats

jerks.

yeah, i ned a car

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Rachel June 12, 2010 at 10:02 pm

oh your like a superman! i would have punched them in the face but you just were like justice woman ftw

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kathryn June 16, 2010 at 12:02 am

My friend has a great story about something that happened on his train once. The trains here have seating in groups of 6 – 3 seats facing forward, 3 facing backward. Someone had put their briefcase on one of the middle seats. A guy got on the train and asked to sit down… no one moved the brief case, then he asked again.. then was like “who owns this brief case?” No one answered so he threw it out the train window! Priceless.

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Qoddess June 20, 2010 at 12:25 am
Katherine June 23, 2010 at 1:48 pm

I’m the girl who puts stuff on the seat next to me when I sit down, but as soon as I even see a decent amount of people getting on and the doubles becoming singles, I move it to avoid the awkwardness of people needing a seat.

Seriously people, we can’t even give up seats for each other? No wonder we can’t get anything done for the good of all!

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