On Secret Society of List Addicts, jobs I wouldn’t do for any amount of money — even if it would mean being able to pay my rent on time every month.
NTKOG #246: The kind of infinitely obliging nighttime pedestrian who, when strange men aggressively leer, seriously considers their propositions.
I am: a lady-dude and, as such, occasionally subjected to the vile hooting of apparently myopic dudes who spend their evenings leaning against chain-link fences, grunting mating calls.
I am not: ever going to get used to this. I’m the happy product of suburban geek culture, where pointedly asking a lady for brunch recommendations is about as straight-up promiscuous as a dude can get.
The Scene: Dragging my weary, frizzy and infinitely cranky self home after a(nother) twelve-hour day at the office. For the past two weeks, Co-Worker and I have been enjoying a series of work-evening “sleepovers” auditing files, and after a seriously productive evening, I was looking forward to decanting my jellified brain into a gin and ginger, then catching nine hours of the dreamless.
What I was not planning to do was talk to any dudes. Unfortunately, the early-20s punk leaning against a local convenience store wall, chain-smoking Pall Malls hadn’t gotten that memo. “Hey mami,” he grunted, “where you going?”
Forgive me for questioning your approach, Street Dudes, but I’ve got to say, that question has always perplexed me. Because of the vibrant street ensemble in the area where I work, I get it most often while walking back to the office on my lunch break, carrying grocery bags. Where you going, girl? “God, funny you should ask. I’m bringing back hors d’oeuvres for an orgy in my office. Wanna come? (ps: that is sexy wordplay about ejaculation.)” Seriously, guys, what’s your friggin’ strategy?
Anyway, after twelve hours of work stress, I was in no mood to educate a late-night convenience store buzzard on feminism, so I cranked up my music and prepared to ignore him, when he reached out to touch my shoulder and asked again: “Aw, c’mon, where you going?”
And so the unthinkable, the inevitable. I yanked my headphones out and swiveled to face him, my nose mere inches from his straggly mustache. “I’m going home. To bed.”
“Can I come with you?” he asked, before the words had even stopped vibrating through my larynx. Upon closer inspection, he was younger than I thought, his skin pulled with bouncy-ball tautness over newly prominent jaw and cheekbones. He must have been a full half-decade younger than me, a lamb in wolf’s clothing.
“Yeah, sure,” I grinned back, calm and radiant, “let’s have sex. Let’s totally have sex.” To his credit, as soon as I said it, Debauched Babyface immediately dashed his cigarette to the ground in a pretty slick Manly Man Of Action move. “So do you, like, have an apartment or a car or something? Or like, what, a moped? I guess we could try it on a moped. Let’s do this.”
Maybe it all seemed too easy, or maybe the moped accusation affronted his masculinity, but DB took a large step back. “O–okay.” Finally, unfolding before my eyes, the answer to the question: What do cat-callers do when they finally get the girl? Back away nervously, apparently. He patted down his baggy jeans pockets to dig out his softpack of cigarettes.
“Dude, come on, I thought you, like, wanted to hook up.”
“With you?”
Ouch, dude. Ouch. Was I getting rejected by him? Truly, has my life come to this?
“Absolutely,” I smiled, taking a step toward him, half a hip swivel away from AC Slatering him against the wall. “I mean, I was just minding my own business, walking home, and you harassed me. What can I say? You changed my mind.” Silence. Silence. “I assume you want to have sex. Why else would you be bothering me?”
And through his rubber babyface, a lightning-fast ripple of contrition. “It was just a compliment.” And then he hardened again — “crazy bitch” — and spat on the ground at my feet. Yeah, you might be right, kid, but you just reminded this crazy bitch why she’s so very happy to be going home alone.
The Verdict: So, my sister’s roommate has two kittens who spend the vast majority of their days tearing through the house, pouncing after flies. I’ve only ever seen the kittens catch one once and, when they did, they had absolutely no idea what to do with it. They batted it around the bathroom for a while, drooled on it some, then leaned back on their paws and let it fly free.
I always sort of imagined that turning catcallers’ aggression back on them would yield similar results. But dude he didn’t even want to bat me around or slobber a little on me. I’m not sure whether to feel relieved or sort of offended. So instead, I’m choosing to feel profoundly bewildered not only that guys find this behavior appropriate but that they’re apparently engaging in a catcalling as an end unto itself.
Dudes and lady-dudes, someone explain this to me: has catcalling ever actually led to intercourse? Does anyone — catcallers included — enjoy it in any way? And, short of uncomfortably propositioning them like I did, how do you deal with this ridiculous obnoxiousness?
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Dude, check out the second verse of Amanda Palmer’s song “Ampersand”: (and yyyyeah, I’m typing out the lyrics for you. I feel so…fourteen.)
The ghetto boys are catcalling me as I pull my keys from my pocket
I wonder if this method of courtship has ever been effective
Has any girl in history said, “Sure, you seem so nice, let’s get it on!”
Still it always shocks them when I answer, “Hi, my name’s Amanda”
So, you know. There’s that.
DUDE! I had no idea this song existed! I love it!
As a dude I’ve always wondered what guys hope to accomplish with this. Apparently nothing? Or the hope that the compliment will help you feel good about yourself? I don’t get it.
His stunned, action-less reaction is what I would have expected, though without the “with you?” rejection. Not cool, buddy. Also don’t play with fire – I’m fairly certain NTKOG could spout literary allusions, portmanteaux, and puns until your brain melts.
At least he’s not stupid enough to expect catcalling to actually result in the recipient wanting to have sex with him?
i live out west in an arid, desert climate. yesterday i encountered a similar scenario as i was hiking back to my car after an intense workout. in other words, i looked completely hideous.
and yet, apparently, hot, sweaty, and revolting was workin’ for me, since a white guy-gansta passing me in all his baggy-pants glory eyed me up and down appreciatively and and murmured a la joey tribbiani, “why, hello, how you doin’ on this fine day?”
i waved and feigned deafness, which is my general M.O. for these types of interactions.
The other day a gentleman hollered out to me, “Hey let me get your number.” Usually I smile, maybe even laugh, and walk on. But he followed me so I fell back on, “I’m married.”
To which he replied, “Marriage isn’t forever. He doesn’t have to know.”
Uh, yeah. Where were you hoping to go with that implication that I’m an adulterer, dude?
Dear, dude, dear one wonders why you were out alone in the city unescorted and shopping at a seedy market? Your encounter with the young man does NOT reflect the rules you learned at Miss Pearl’s Cotillion and I am shocked that you might suggest sex to an underaged youth. And, dear, why are you addressing us as Dude and Lady-dudes? Have you become a surfer, a stoner or a gangsta? Either I have morally failed you or Beantown has corrupted you, dude, dear. I realize this blog is an experiment, but the correct response to such cat calls is to turn one’s head away and blush.
I believe this is the first time I’ve ever seen TKOMom say “dude”. Has the world turned on its head?
Yes, Danielle, dear, it has and excuse me while I rant. Everytime TKOG writes “dude” I cringe and visualize dear Ashton Kutcher sitting in a car alone (not with THAT cheetah or cougar). How a girl,who attended the West Coast’s top university on a literary
scholarship, can use the term “dude” I do NOT know. In my day we said “chick” and “dude,” but it was different: we were sincere. Then the women’s movement came along and etiquette changed: “chick” fell by the wayside. Thank you, dear, for letting me vent, I do hope, confidentially, that TKOG outgrows this phase. Dude, dear?
TKOMom, you DID raise TKOG in California. Such things should be somewhat expected.
Besides, at least TKOG has not picked up the ill habit of replacing “chick” with “b*tch” as so many others have.
Dear, one never calls a young lady or any lady, by that term, ever: it’s rude, offensive, unlady-like and just plain incorrect.
Today’s youth has been corrupted, sadly. Vulgarity seems to have made it into everyday vernacular.
Dear Mom…
awesome work.
I see where you get the humour from
Humour, Nina, dear? Surely you jest!
Hahahaha, this is too funny! What would you have done if he did indeed have a moped handy?
You know? If he’d come up with a workable plan to have moped sex and backed it up with diagrams and like engineering speculations and stuff, a little part of me would consider implementing it. Provided he was actually over 18, which is kind of a toss-up.
Please. Only consider sex on a motorcycle. At the very least, go for the bad boy. (if he’s over 18)
A girl I went to high school with had sex on a bicycle. While it was moving. I’m still trying to figure it out (I’m guessing the guy was doing the pedaling?), but witnesses (!) have confirmed the story is indeed true.
No way! I am so impressed.
Thanks to this amazing comment, I spent like half an hour googling motorcycle sex positions. I think I’m too old for that noise, though. Call me bourgeois, but I’m not going to risk a chiropractor visit for novelty-sex.
That said, COME ON, bike sex details slash speculations?! Draw us a speculative diagram!
Dude, major props to you for doing this! I’ve never harassed a harasser. I guess it also has to do with the fact that I’m a salsa/bachata dancer, and getting hit on and gyrating against a stranger is part of the culture. So when I get catcalls on the street, I don’t even notice it, or ignore it. I’m always afraid that if I harass the guys back, they will actually try to come home with me and then I have to beat off stalkers again.
Interestingly enough, in the latin dance community, gyrating against a total stranger is completely acceptable and there’s no expectation of sex afterwards, whatsoever. We just like to be sexy with each other for the time being, enjoy each others’ dancing skills, and then move on to another partner after the dance.
A week or two ago, I got hit on by a 16-year-old on the train. The kid was a full decade younger than me and waaay to confident for his own good. He was with a bunch of buddies and at first I tried ignoring him. He asked me what I was reading. I held up the book so he could read the title. He bummed a piece of gum from me. As the train neared the end of the line (the Mall of America, holla!) he asked, “So whatcha doing at the mall today?” I raised my eyebrows and replied, “Shopping. What are YOU doing at the mall today?” He replied, “Shopping with you! You gonna buy me something?” And in what is probably my proudest comeback moment, I smiled and replied, “Sure, where we going? Baby Gap?” This was met by a loud chorus of groans and laughs and teasing by his little gang of friends.
Oooooo…. *fist bumps sarah*
You are a CHAMPION!!!
ZING! A comeback that I could have only come up with two hours too late. Good for you!
dude, today you are my hero.
Dude, today YOUR MOM is my hero.
I get catcalls all the time near where I work. Sometimes I laugh (because it’s genuinely funny when someone points at you and yells loudly, “NEXT MISS AMERICA! DAYUM!”) and sometimes I cringe, and other times I ignore it. I’d like to start being aggressive back, or maybe just taking some cues from nature and making myself appear larger than I am while yowling. Yes, yes…that seems to be the answer.
I usually won’t say anything, but I was at a party last week when this guy (friend of a frienemy) wolf whistled at me (yes, indoors). Since he was really getting on my nerves, I asked him what he meant by it. I was too riled/nervous at the time to really remember what happened next, but have been told the conversation went something like this:
him: It’s a compliment, you should just be happy.
me: Even if the attention is unwanted?
him: Uh, yeah.
me: How would *you* feel if you were walking down the street and someone whistled at you?
him: That would be so awesome.
me: Even if it’s someone you’re not interested in, like say, a gay man?
him: What, no, what are you talking about, I’d probably punch him in the face.
me: What if he was twice as big as you?
him: I guess I wouldn’t walk there anymore.
me: What if it was your way home from work, or between your apartment and the bus stop, or by the grocery store you go to?
him: (awkward silence) …Uh, do you know where the bathrooms are in this place?
Don’t think I changed this guys mind, but if that’s really what I said, I gotta say I’m pretty ballsy and kind of a lot cooler than I thought. My mom (a semi-militant feminist in her spare time) would be so proud.
You’re my new hero. THAT was awesome.
*fist bump #2* For once, homophobia comes in handy.
I would have liked to have witnessed that. Way cooler than,”throwing my complimentary watered down drink in his fat face!”
Props
That is my favorite phrase for today. Thank you.
Thanks, but credit goes to Michael Keaton’s Character in “Night Shift” If you haven’t seen it, I think you’d like it :)
If your NTKOG budget (both financial and vacation) allows, thou shalt visit Guatemala.
Dude, I just spent two months there this summer, and it must just be the pasty white skin, but every day on my way to class or the clinic… in my best dress or in scrubs, the little pervs of the neighborhood yelled, “Hey Mami… Que linda!! Que linda!!”
One day, someone followed me for an entire block saying “Ooh, que linda. I knew I learned English for a reason.”
Clearly it was not their attraction to me, but just that I was different. Which is kind of more like a… “Hey, you’re weird” than a “Hey, how pretty!”
After awhile it got severely old and began to piss me off, but I wish I had the nads like you and Sarah to go up and talk some smack. Good for you.. I shall keep that in mind the next time, especially if I have a little liquid courage first.
Silly kid. I think someone learned that, while catcalling may make him feel like a big man, he is still small potatoes when it counts. Or, more likely, he learned nothing but you got a good chuckle out of the matter.
That’s fantastic!
You just made my night. :-)
You are amazing. You’ve confirmed what I’ve always thought: Catcalling is not a means to an end–unless that end is “skeeving out the ladies.”
Although once a dude in a car rode past me and said (note: he did not yell), “You have pretty eyes.” I doubt he was really close enough to judge my eye prettiness, but I thought it was kind of charming. Because THAT? Is actually a compliment.
I have to admit, I was hoping for more enlightening explanations of the cat-calling phenomenon. Because I also do not understand it. One time when I was in a wicked awful mood, a guy on the street said “Hey baby, nice ass,” and I turned around and snapped “Oh learn some manners!” and he looked totally abashed. However I would not count on that as a reaction. :/
Hi! (Just to introduce myself!) I have read all of your archives and have been following along for a few months now. I have not commented before, not because I haven’t wanted to, or been inspired to, more because I was reading some of the archived ones and thought, “I could write something now and probably have no one see it, or I could wait until it’s at least somewhat current!”
My reason is this: I get catcalled a lot (I really do not understand why) and I have a response that confuses all parties involved. Yup, including myself. I turn around and face the “gentleman” involved, put on a huge, pageant style smile and wave in a similar pageant fashion. I don’t know why this is my knee-jerk reaction to this annoying interaction, but there is never a follow up because I think that everyone walks away a little bewildered.
There you go, my life changing first comment…. lol Also, to be clear, I have never been in a pageant in my life. Thank you for your witty, funny and oft inspiring contributions to the world!
My best friend and I were smoking in front of a bar and, um, practicing hula-hoop moves. As one sometimes does. A carload of teenage boys drove by and shrieked “LESBIANS!!!” as they passed (California may be the only place in the world where even teenage boys are PC enough not to say “dyke”). Anyway, my friend and I were both speechless at the time, but my friend’s husband suggested this excellent response, which I will totally use. Just shriek one word back at them: “VIRGINS!!”